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Sequencing Product Education Gives Skeptical Buyers A Reason To Believe Before A Reason To Buy

The CMO Wire - News Team
October 6, 2026

Tina Shim, Chief Marketing Officer of Apothékary, makes the case that an ingredient list only lands with a shopper who already accepts the category, and explains what the brand hands its retail partners instead.

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At first, we provided too little and too much information at the same time. Now we make sure customers understand what a product is for, how it benefits them, and how to integrate it.

Tina Shim

Chief Marketing Officer

Apothékary

Beauty and wellness brands tend to sell on the formulation, which gives their marketing a great deal to explain. An ingredient list only persuades a shopper who already accepts that the category works. With herbal medicine, someone who is new to the category needs a reason to believe in it before the ingredients mean anything, while someone who already takes it daily can be given the detail straight away. Sorting those shoppers apart comes before the rest of the funnel has a chance to work.

Tina Shim is Chief Marketing Officer at the herbal supplement brand Apothékary, which now reaches more than 1,700 retail doors alongside its own website. Shim became CMO in March 2026, after joining the previous May as SVP of Marketing and Commercialization. Her 20 years in consumer packaged goods include brand management on Neutrogena at Johnson & Johnson, global brand marketing at Murad, and senior brand marketing across IPSY and BoxyCharm. Apothékary has to convince a shopper that herbal medicine works before it can sell a single bottle, putting the order of explanation at the center of Shim's job.

"At first, we provided too little and too much information at the same time. Who needs to hear about 15 ingredients when they aren't even convinced that herbs work for them? Now we make sure customers understand what a product is for, how it benefits them, and how to integrate it," says Shim. The reordering began with the website and the email flows the team controls outright. It also reached the material the brand hands to store associates and affiliates, who pass it on in their own words.

Sequencing what a buyer learns

An experienced herbal buyer and someone who has only ever bought vitamins need different first conversations. The experienced buyer needs no persuading that herbal medicine rests on centuries of use, so Shim can go straight to what's in the bottle. With a newcomer, she starts instead from the outcome that person came looking for, and the ingredients come last. "You have to make sure that you're drip feeding them credible sources," she explains. "You're drip feeding them information that makes sense in terms of outcomes that they're looking for before you can get into the specific types of ingredients."

Each part of that education now exists in a wide range of formats from static ads and infographics to influencer and customer video, because a buyer who scrolls past one may stop at another. Customer reviews also now appear inside ad copy and on product pages, so a buyer meets them without seeking them out. The site was rebuilt with separate routes into the science, the ritual, and the Japanese heritage behind the formulations. Its welcome and post-purchase flows now hand a buyer one piece at a time. "We know we can't get to all of it at once, and they're not going to take it in the same way if you hand it all over at once," Shim notes. "But as they're interested, they'll learn more."

One-pagers and two-minute videos

Shim's team gives retail partners a one-pager covering what a product does, its benefits, and its ingredients. However, a store associate who has to speak about a product can't learn everything from a single sheet. The team now produces videos of ninety seconds to two minutes, some on YouTube and some distributed inside retail networks. The videos are made to be cut up and reused, which is how Shim wants a partner to leverage them. "That enables them to dive a little deeper and learn about the products in a way that is accurate," she explains. "It hopefully gives them enough information to create their own stories and hooks off of it."

On TikTok, the brand works with thousands of affiliates. Some made claims the product couldn't support, and Shim answered with explicit guidance about what they could and couldn't include in their messaging. Apothékary's lead formulator is a traditional Chinese medicine doctor who also holds a graduate degree in microbiology, and that depth is how the brand keeps its claims defensible. "We did have to do a lot of education around it, and then just be very clear. 'Yes, say this. Absolutely do not say this,'" says Shim. "At the end of the day we're under FDA supplements regulatory language."

Signals and what converts

A brand releasing its education in sequence has to know when a buyer is ready for the next part. Comments are where Shim looks first. Her team built customer communities on an Instagram broadcast channel and on a platform called Tyb, which surfaces questions in real time both from buyers and from followers who haven't bought anything yet. On the brand's own site, post-purchase and subscription flows are personalized to what a customer has already done. Customers in Apothékary's loyalty program's upper tiers get education sessions with the R&D team and a say in products still in development. "People who have spent more are more highly engaged," Shim adds. "We enable some of the higher level loyalty groups access to things that honestly would not be interesting to some of the new customers."

Conversion on the site averages around 1% by Shim's count. Noriko, an AI herbalist the company built with traditional Chinese medicine doctors and clinical data, runs a tongue reading and a short questionnaire before returning an assessment, and Shim puts its most recent week at 13.1% against 0.9% for the acquisition quiz it replaced. A buyer who comes through Noriko also spends more on a first order, and Shim takes that as a sign the education did its work before the buyer reached the cart. The brand's guidance continues after the sale, and she's explicit about what a customer hears when a product disappoints them. "If it's not working for you, or if it's causing some sort of effect that you didn't anticipate, stop," Shim concludes. "We want to be credible in that way too, because at the end of the day we just want people to be well."